Monday, June 08, 2009

Huh??

Rumor has it that a top building administrator will be pulling their children from MPS and heading to Olivet Schools. Anybody have any confirmation on that?

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have already pulled my kids from Marshall and I will not support any thing they do until they fix the wrong doing that has happend in the last 5 years

Anonymous said...

Which building administrators have kids in the Marshall schools, Susan Townsend? Bob Vaught? Dave Turner?

Anonymous said...

I know that Bob and Susan both have their kids at MHS. I think that Turner has his kids at Olivet but I'm not sure. Ms. Nessel has her son enrolled at Walter's for Kindergarten for next fall.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Turner's wife is an administrator at either Olivet or Maple Valley. That may be where his kids are going to be enrolled.

Anonymous said...

I thought Mr. Turner's wife was an administrator, but apparently not anymore. She is a 4th or 5h grade teacher in Olivet. Must be his kids that are going to be going there.

Anonymous said...

Last one out of Marshall turn out the lights!

Anonymous said...

Heads up, there are rumors of some big surprise changes this summer. A board member told me some big administrative changes are in the works involving 2-3 administrators. That's all I can say for now.

Budget cuts passed said...

From the BC Enquirer late Monday June 8th:

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20090608/NEWS01/306080019/Marshall+school+board+cuts+budget

It looks like Randy Davis is playing a key role, for the better or the worse.

Rollback undeserved raises said...

No rollback of huge administrator raises? The Tech Director has had his pay increased 40% during the last few years? Incoming superintendent Randy Davis received a big raise on top of the big undeserved raises Joyce Phillips received? By rolling these undeserved raises back we could save one or two jobs being cut. Let's do it for the kids!

Anonymous said...

The best MEAP scores around and a declining economy. I'm going for MEAP. Marshall School's are still far better off than Olivet, HC, Lakeview and BC. We have good schools and need to support our board. The amount of hours and time must be tough. JKP is almost gone and last night's meeting showed the board is asking questions and working on solutions. While I don't agree with everything I'm happy a pool soultion is coming and that Hamlin will get to stay on. Rich will be here next year and we have a new Supt. I think we need to pull together and be more positive. We need students to fix our budget and that will only happen with some positive discussion. John Sullivan suggested a billboard on the MEAP. Last night's highlight was that Marshall students got more than a million in scholarships at graduation. Good energy at the meeting and there's good stuff going on here. As ticked off as some of the past garbage makes me, my kids are staying put. Last night was a clear message that parents care and will continue to make sure decisions are made with kids in mind. I feel better about the SB and Randy Davis than I have in a long time. At this point I'm going to stay positive and I hope others will too.

Anonymous said...

Gone is the Asst Supt and high paid Amy Jones position too. Tides are turning. It's obvious Phillips couldn't answer the budget questions and that Randy Davis did his homeork. Phillips has checked out. June 30th will soon be here. More power to Davis, he's coming to work with a skelton staff and he's going to have to rattle some more bones!!!

Anonymous said...

I am glad about MEAP, but we should be careful. Everyone's scores are going up. They are rising because everyone is teaching to the test. At some point we will hit the wall and the true ability of the students will show.

Also, we should be comparing ourselves to districts with which we would compete for jobs. Small towns like Hastings, Greenville, Bad Axe, etc. Also, suburban districts around Lansing and GR. If we do that comparison, we don't hold up as well.

Be careful about scholarhips. Colleges are hurting for students and all scholarships are up.

Good news is helpful, but we must not delude ourselves. We have cut potentially attractive programs and we still have no real idea of what our core competence is.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the post above; Harper Creek's seniors (Lakeview too) have been "earning over a million dollars a year in scholarships" for years. All it takes is a couple of bright kids who get numerous offers to get to that figure.
If Marshall's MEAP scores are indeed higher than Lakeview's (don't know, have not seen them) it is probably because Lakeview has taken in so many school-of-choice students from BCC. I would not brag about the MEAP scores too much; they are usually much more reflective of the socio-economic make up of the community than anything else.
Unless the HS principal is replaced, morale there will continue to decline, and so will everything else.

Anonymous said...

Marshall teachers need to stop hiding behind their union and start making some sacrifices just like the rest of us. Sounds like they should appreciate having any job at all, and be willing to accept changes to their cushy contract.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for summarizing the position of the Joyce Phillips' supporters on the school board! I bet you're one of them.

Anonymous said...

Why does Vic, Janice, Dan, Paul and most likely Ali have such a bad attitude towards the teachers and just about everyone else? Why are they so protective of the failed JP and her incompetent loyalists? Why did they fail to hold JP accountable for all the scandals and blunders? Did they really force out Amy Jones and Brian Metcalf? Why did they choose Randy Davis over better qualified candidates? Lots of questions need answers.

Anonymous said...

Randy Davis will have a golden opportunity to turn things around as far as staff support and morale and community support and respect.

He will need to earn this trust and respect which will take significant effort. He will need to make a clean break from the way things have been done, or not done, from the last five years.

Everyone is happy Joyce Phillips is leaving, we just wish she would be held accountable for her wrongdoing. Her board supporters will have a far harder time if they want to earn trust and support. The bar is very low so Mr. Davis has nowhere to go but up. Let's hope he proves his critics wrong. We want to hear more about finding new sources of revenue rather than someone who just sits back and makes cuts. He needs to build bridges to ALL groups and pursue the millions available in grant money that Phillips failed to pursue. We need a hardworking and bold visionary, not a self-serving incompetent tyrant. We need cooperation, patience, teamwork, a good communicator and a true leader!

Anonymous said...

Unions in general have hurt public education. Our specific problems stem from the board and administration.

That poster has it in for teachers. They have no interest in the true causes.

Ignore them.

Marshall should have top MEAP scores said...

You could put a monkey in charge of the Marshall schools and still have the best MEAP scores in the county! Look at the demographics of race, class and income. Marshall has a large number of affluent kids with educated parents, most likely the highest percentage of any school in the county. So they should have the highest MEAP scores! Now what is the excuse for all of the other problems with the administration and the board?

Anonymous said...

townsands son already goes to olivet, being that he was expelled from MPS for shooting someone w/a pellet gun.

Anonymous said...

What are the salaries for the administrators? Why don't they offer to take pay cuts? If someone offered to take a 5-10% paycut to help balance the budget, it would show that they actually do care about the school system, and education, and didn't become an educator just b/c they get the summers off. How much would a 5% pay cut from the adminstrative staff save a year? I really hope these new people can pull our community back together, but I really don't see it happening until we have a new president of the school board. The fact that our school board president didn't even graduate high school (GED, I was told, but I could be misinformed, but I don't think so) speaks volumes.

Anonymous said...

To the poster above, the building level administrators take the same cuts that the teachers do, they are tied to the contract that the teachers agree to and when the teachers get a raise, so too do those administrators. Central office, tech director, food service, bus supervisor, and maintenance supervisor have different contracts than the building level administrators. Within the last year though, Mr. Holbrook did get a significant raise when JKP allowed him to instead of being an assistant principal/athletic director to become a building co-principal. This raise will show later in time when retirement has to be paid on it. He farmed off his AD responsibilities to others(his secretary, some teachers) and continued to draw good money. This was a JKP decision to reward her loyalists.

Anonymous said...

We need an outside honest investigation into everything the administration and the board did the last five years. We know there was corruption, lies and coverups. The truth needs to come out. Those responsible for wrongdoing need to be held accountable, even if they are gone from the district.

Anonymous said...

What did our Supt do about holding our current Principal's accountable. I've heard that one Elementary Principal hosts drinking parties and her kids getting in trouble but don't have to pay the piper. She is a pot stirrer that riled up us parents at her school in a mean spirited attempt to get her way about cutting a teacher position...I feel used. Are we paying for her education just like our former Asst Sup? Great for our troubled budget.

Anonymous said...

It's been about entitlement in our district since Lou. The good old boys still rule and the one you mentioned above is rooted in that club.

You need to contact Saundra Hainline or Marsha Lambert if you have contract suggestions about the teachers cuts. The message was pretty clear that the board's hands are tied on negotiations. I think we as public need to let the Teacher's Union know if we think they need to adjust to the real world economy. Pretty much everyone in our neighborhood has been hit with pay freezes and layoffs and job loss. Most of my buddies would agree that job security is a bonus and can't even think about a bonus. My jaw dropped when I heard they are asking for raises.

Anonymous said...

Paul is done. Who's on first now?

Anonymous said...

Someone has the scoop on ST!!! That is only the tip of the iceberg!!! She does not have her heart in it any more!!

Anonymous said...

It sounds like the bare bones staff that will greet our students for the incoming 2009-10 school year will all be doing alot more for less money. These people including building principals will take the hit on salary in line with the union contracts (support and MTA).

On the other hand: The Supt., Tech Director, Maintenance Supervisor, Bus Supervisor and a few others seem to not only dodge the 'budget cut bullets' but are quietly getting pay increases. Having spent 15+ years with MPS I am amazed that people like Charlie MacDonald have been able to keep their jobs, and get+-40% pay increases. All these positions should be cut back about 15% to be in line with districts of our size and student count pay scales. As a poster said above about the teachers "Sounds like they should appreciate having any job at all, and be willing to accept changes to their cushy contract."

I personally think this speaks more directly to those who have taken exoborant raises = Charlie Mc, Mike Wally, Frank, Holbrook, Turner....silly pilly....and let's rewrite the top administration positions also. Remember when these positions had titles like: Business Manager, Curriculum Director and Supt. Changed those darn titles so MPS could 'attract better canidates with higher pay incentives'. Well - hello - this district can no longer afford to pay the top 'attractive wages'. We need to pay competitive but affordable wages.....TO THE TOP ADMINISTRATION....NOT JUST ALL THOSE TEACHERS AND SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY AFFECT THE STUDENTS AT THIS DISTRICT.

Anonymous said...

Question: The paper said that the teacher would get their step raises but no other increases for a savings of 246,000 (or something like that), Can someone please exlpain how giving teachers their steps raises save the district money?? I just couldn't figure this out!!! Someone please explain!!!

Anonymous said...

To the first poster. If you removed your kids from MPS then move on and keep your comments to yourself. You gave up on this community and the schools. We'll fix it without you.

Anonymous said...

"Can someone please exlpain how giving teachers their steps raises save the district money??"

Teachers receive step increases for each year for the first 12 years they are employed. When raises are negotiated, it is an across-the-board raise. So if the teachers get a 2% raise (dream on, long time since that happened) every step goes up 2%; those teachers not at the top (been here 12 years, or maybe its 13) also get a step increase. Since probably half the staff is at the top, no raise saves money, even though some people would still get their step increases.
It all depends upon what is negotiated.
But my question---have the teachers agreed to take a pay-freeze?

Anonymous said...

It still bugs me that we don't seem to know what happened to the lost 100 or so students. I can accept being surprised, but it would seem that now we would know where they went.

The sceptical me wonders if they left because we have cut programs or classes.

BC Enquirer 6-10-09 said...

A follow up article on the budget:

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20090610/NEWS01/906100306/Marshall+officials+optimistic+in+tough+budget+year

I give Annette credit for standing up to Joyce. Dan is a fool if he trusts Joyce. They are trying to push the idea of "lets just move forward" but after the huge mess that was made for five years it is not that simple. There still needs to be an investigation, accountability and justice. If your kid got run over by a drunk driver would you want to just "move on" and forget the whole mess? I don't think so!

Joyce Phillips and others need to be held accountable for the lives they unjustly ruined or hurt, and the dishonest and bad actions they enthusiastically pushed and carried out. JP should not be let off the hook and get a very expensive second retirement ($20,000 per year for life for five years of bad performance in Michigan). Justice needs to be done first before we can move on.

Resign for the kids and community! said...

If Dan can't trust the excellent teaching staff to do their job, and Dan couldn't trust the excellent Ron Behrenwald to do his job, and he couldn't trust Kathy Petrich and many others to do their job, why in the world would he trust Joyce Phillips to do her job? She is the only one on this list that has a proven track record of being untrustworthy and incompetent. Dan, please resign no! You are not fit to serve on our school board. Neither is Vic or Janice! I can't wait until Paul is gone too! We all know this group schemes together and are collectively responsible for every bad thing committed by Phillips and her regime the last five years.

Anonymous said...

That is "Dan resign now!" He and his foolish cronies make me so angry after all the lies they have told and all the terrible things they have done to our schools.

Anonymous said...

They all should hang their heads in disgrace. To see the whole board stand and give that Phillips woman a standing ovation at her last board meeting sums it all up. They have allowed the systematic destruction of a once wonderful district to happen and should not only be recalled but run out of town.

Anonymous said...

I did notice that none of the administrators in the crowd stood up and participated in this deplorable ovation. I even noticed that a few didn't even clap for her.

Anonymous said...

J. Phillips should have been taken away in handcuffs at her last board meeting. The fools that protect her and guide her applaud her. Those that back her should be recalled AND investigated too!

The Name Game... said...

For the above posters...RECALLED, INVESTIGATED, RUN OUT OF TOWN, HANDCUFFED, RESIGN NOW, FOOL, UNTRUSTWORTHY, SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION, INCOMPETENT, FOOLISH CRONIES...pick a name from the list below, any name...

blockhead
idiot
ignoramus
imbecile
jackass
mooncalf
moron
nincompoop
ninny
nitwit
simpleton
softhead
tomfool

...now sign your newly chosen name to your next post!!! Your pathetic ignorance is showing through...

Anonymous said...

Maybe they were standing because they are so happy she is leaving. There's no love lost...5-2 vote proved that. Annette and Ali earned some respect.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone say too little too late?

to three above said...

Is this one of our Phillips board supporters throwing a hissy fit?

R. Davis outlook said...

So far there is not much confidence that the same board leaders plus a subpar new superintendent who has many things in common with JP will turn things around. Ali and Annette did show some independence which is good. John and Bill should be two more good ones to help make positive changes. Randy Davis was considered by far the weakest candidate of the finalists. His record and reputation at Athens is not good. Some of his old Starr Commenwealth friends think he can do a good job. I hope he reads this blog to learn about the depth of the problems the last five years so he can make big changes to earn the trust and respect of all. This will not be easy and he will have to be tough with Janice, Dan and Vic. If he launches an honest investigation to hold JP accountable that leads to her losing her 2nd retirement, as should happen, he will be a hero!

Anonymous said...

>>Randy Davis was considered by far the weakest candidate of the finalists.>>

By whom? I didn't know there was a candidate ranking. Why can't you people give the guy a fair shot? Take time to meet and talk with him, get to know him. Its easy to be critical from the armchair.

Change is about - Joyce moving said...

I do not feel bad here. JP got credit from 7 'in the pocket board members'. When you compare that to 152 staff members (who are in the building - suffering her pathetic personal attacks daily)....I would say the opinions of staff members compared to the 7 board members who have proven they are 'not in touch with what has realy been going on'....NO COMPARISON. I think we can agree - since the board has protected joycy this far it would have been odd behavior for even this board to not given 'the worst superintendent in the history of MPS' recognition. I also believe a couple on the board had to 'go along with this recognition' as a gracious ending to a horrible train wreck of 5 years'.

Talk is talk....actions speak louder than words. I would caution every one to watch what happens this summer. The current board seems to do most of their 'attacks on people and programs' when school is out and staff members are not connected to each other in the much needed support system. I hope this is not the planned time to fully attack Rich Hulkow! Remember the 25 cutodians??????? Not many of their colleagues were around to know what was happening. Kathy Petrich took a strong stand in support of these local custodians being 'kicked out the door in the name of - saving money'. Where oh where did that money go....Oh where oh where can it be? Oooops....I remember - Joyce Phills/Dr. Davis/C. MacDonald....took the savings.

I say this for my friend KP....'what to heck was that all about?'

Anonymous said...

Joyce needs to be charged and convicted! Her board supporters do too!

Suzy Turner said...

To the original question:
Two of the Turner children will attend Olivet Community Schools next year. If you are interested in the reasons for their attendance in Olivet for the 2009-2010 school year, you should contact Dave or Suzy Turner for an explanation, rather than speculating about the reasons.

Anonymous said...

Its embarrassing that Marshall is losing so many students (I have heard upwards of 50!) to the Olivet schools. Can't we hire Supt. Dave Campbell to come down here and turn things around.

Rogerstluz said...

It's been about entitlement in our district since Lou. The good old boys still rule and the one you mentioned above is rooted in that club. You need to contact Saundra Hainline or Marsha Lambert if you have contract suggestions about the teachers cuts. The message was pretty clear that the board's hands are tied on negotiations. I think we as public need to let the Teacher's Union know if we think they need to adjust to the real world economy. Pretty much everyone in our neighborhood has been hit with pay freezes and layoffs and job loss. Most of my buddies would agree that job security is a bonus and can't even think about a bonus. My jaw dropped when I heard they are asking for raises.